Curse

thrashbasket · May 27, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jintai Kishokan

Do I want to be able to attain it on my main char? Yes.

then you shouldn't have died with your main char.

Nanii · May 27, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

/not signed. "SURVIVOR" I think.. the name says it all.
It means you should be able to SURVIVE untill lvl 20. If you cant do that.. well make that title next goal for the next character.

It took me a long time of nail biting to get the title and starting in Cantha did not make it more easy for me. Thats what you set as goal, a hard goal and guild wars was not ment to be the easiest game, this is what you are proud of at the end when you see that title you worked, may I say, very hard for. Sorry to say but this is a dumb idea.

/a survivor.

Dougal Kronik · May 27, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

If you don't mind enduring some sacrifices on your main character to attain the title of Survivor - check out my post #47. It would allow a current character to attempt to gain this title but it would be slightly more difficult, and wouldn't need to have the deaths reset to 0.

Nanii · May 27, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

I really think this is so lame, by all who signed. Im just waiting for some good suggestion all this time.. If they want to amend this title.. that was MENT to be like this, from the beginning, amend the following titles.

For example:
Explorer: Get a w/mo and run the map..
Treasure hunter: Buy 100 keys and.. u get it.
Hero Title: Well just look under the services forums here on guru...
Wisdom: Well just tell your guild and the 100 alliances in it to give you "something to identify"

The other titles are to work for, I include Survivor title in that list..

CorstedPirate · May 29, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Honestly, I think my suggestion was the best so far for older characters with deaths to be able to get the title.

I mean, the idea that you can just get it with experience points on a character that is set up to farm exp. That really sucks!!! That would mean you can go solo for a couple hours and have the title.

NO!!!

I really think that if they give us access to get the title on a character that has already died, we should not have access to the first part of the title. We should be forced to get the next one that requires more than 500,000 experience points without dying. That way it is actually difficult. That way those people that got it the first time through have something to show for it that cannot be taken away from them.

The idea of going to Glint and having her make us level 1 and take away our skills and items? No offense, but that is not a very good idea imo.

shadowfell · May 29, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

What is the point of the title if by dying even once, you clearly haven't earned it? ffs.

/notsigned for the obvious reason.

pork soldier · May 29, 2006, 09:56 AM // 09:56

/not signed, this title is currently earned the hard way .. that's nice.

nic0008 · May 29, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

/ not signed

The title says Survivor which means you havnt died..... it takes alot of time to get this title... I like it

Though I dont care about this title tbh

Nanii · May 29, 2006, 10:31 AM // 10:31

arent they going to close this thread? I think its to obvious for most.. well obvious people.. Survivor = To be able to survive all the time untill 140k exp.

Or else it would be called "Survivor-for-people-who-cant-survive-and-wont-set-a-goal-for-themselfes-therefor-they-want-it-to-be-removed title"

CorstedPirate · May 29, 2006, 10:42 AM // 10:42

I can't be bothered to ever get the title. Survivor=Quitter in my opinion and I don't want a title like that hovering under my name. I was merely trying to present an option for those people that want to get every title maxed. That way those that achieve the title aren't stopped from getting it maxed. Just as those that cannot currently get it would have it in sight.

They made changes so that a character can have Protector of both Cantha and Tyria. They may eventually make changes to this title as well. I am merely suggesting a way to make it as hard as it should be for those that decide they must have it.

In all honesty I don't care either way.

Navaros · May 29, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowfell

What is the point of the title if by dying even once, you clearly haven't earned it? ffs.

Obviously you can't reasonably apply past deaths that were accumulated before the Survivor Title was implemented to a new Survivor Title. People die on purpose all the time when someone forgets a skill or a player drops out at the start, so as not having to regroup etc. They didn't know they would be future-actively penalized for having done that.

Counting deaths against old characters and making them unable to get "Survivor" is therefore outright ludicrous.

It's not about being unwilling to earn the Survivor Title the hard way. It's about being unable to earn it on an old main character where all Titles belong instead of a useless new character that you don't care about.

Dougal Kronik · May 29, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34

I would be willing to rerstart my main character if I could carry over my event items that have been customized for my main character to attempt this title.

Seeing as how I can't - give me some sort of option. Every other title is attainable on every character if you put the effort into it. Why should this one be any different.

I just want to be able to try and get the title - but don't wasnt to lose the Pumpkin Helmet, Yule Hat, Grenth's Horns, or Tengu Mask. Unless there was some way for me to get these again.

I'm not asking for a wipe of my deaths, or to make the title easier, just give me some method of acquiring the title that my current main character can try.

Winterclaw · May 29, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42

/Half Signed

Give one form of the title where you go from the character creation to X amount of XP without dying once, give another form where you gain that much XP without dying but have had deaths with that character.

For example if you have gotten the requirements on a character that's died perviously (before you started this count) then you could be called Rugged or something.

pjfresh · Jul 17, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

For the people who really want to get the achievement the max of Legendary on all your existing characters (without creating new ones), ask yourselves, do you really? Talking from experience, it's a huge commitment. I, personally, won't go into Tombs, FoW, UW and it means I can't PvP at all, since they count as deaths, too. I can't risk running anywhere either. It also makes you pick and choose groups more carefully, as a noob group (or even player) can be your downfall. I originally chose to go after this title to challenge myself and with the thought not many people would have it.

What I find hard about the title is that I've beaten every quest in the game (even Titans), fought my way to Grandmaster Cartographer, and I'm still a few 100k away from 'Legendary' (I only have Prophecies). Now, I'm just doing henchmen runs (Snakes -> Lornar's, Desert areas, etc.) with scrolls, helping people cap elites and do missions, and I might start capping my own elites for the 5k xp.

There definitely seems to be two camps on this thread (and issue), and there is definitely some hate towards survivors. It seems ok for a monk to leave a group because of noobs but not ok for a survivor? Hmm... double standard? I can only assume this, quite frankly, prejudice comes from either experiences with bad "survivors" (rush in, almost die, quit) or jealously of the title

(In all honesty, in all the hundreds of hours I've played with other groups, I've only 'X'ed out Guild Wars twice. And let me tell you, those were some real noob groups. If that makes me a jerk, so be it)

Nanni summed it up best. If you've died, even once (let's be honest), you're not really a survivor. To be post-death "survivors" would be the equivalent of "born-again" virgins. I totally support the creation of a new title, "Born Again Survivor"

, which can be earned by meeting the survivor requirements after you have died.

I'm proud as heck of the work I put in to earning this title, no matter what anyone else says or thinks. Changing it now would only serve to cheapen the accomplishment and undermine those who actually deleted beloved characters to get it. This title is all about sacrifice, in more ways than one (ie: first paragraph). If you're not willing to make it, then I don't think this is the title for you. Hey, I really wanted a tengu mask but I'm not gonna pout over it

. You can't have it all.

All that being said, I would never do this again for another character. It's just too restricting and demanding.

/not signed

Rikimaru · Jul 17, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49

Well, if you gain enouph agreements with this idea maybe they'll get around to fixing it in the next year or two.

That's right, I flamed ANet